tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18909424.post7219361044010899497..comments2024-03-24T23:01:11.766+11:00Comments on Melbourne on Transit: Peter Parkerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13413976934040474125noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18909424.post-59932337028682084252011-11-11T16:51:48.079+11:002011-11-11T16:51:48.079+11:00Re: Alan's comment, the same traffic reduction...Re: Alan's comment, the same traffic reduction can occur when you take a street grid and put planter boxes where the traffic needs stopping. This works well in parts of inner Melbourne. It maintains permeability for pedestrians and cyclists, doesn't have the crime problems of an end-of-cul-de-sac lane, and is easy to open up again if needed.<br /><br />A similar way of doing it when there's no cross road is to put a park at the end of multiple streets.mcnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18909424.post-16704997655705954302011-09-28T23:25:12.355+10:002011-09-28T23:25:12.355+10:00Peter, while your points 1 to 4 are all risks (I d...Peter, while your points 1 to 4 are all risks (I don't think the fifth point holds water), I don't think they're of the same order of magnitude as the benefits from reducing traffic that a cul de sac can provide. I think they can in any event be mitigated to some extent by design.Alan Davieshttp://melbourneurbanist.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18909424.post-69106675920124991112011-09-26T09:38:20.172+10:002011-09-26T09:38:20.172+10:00Peter you can name the problem for what it is: hou...Peter you can name the problem for what it is: housing commission residents, ferals, crime. Social conflict. We live in a tooth and claw 'society'.<br /><br />Enclosing laneways is as much about the 'freebie' ie getting extra land, as about the excuses given.<br /><br />But back to the previous point. Do you think we would be even debating it if the country was Japan or Singapore?Riccardonoreply@blogger.com