tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18909424.post8744304965736366845..comments2024-03-24T23:01:11.766+11:00Comments on Melbourne on Transit: Peter Parkerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13413976934040474125noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18909424.post-52854030229985802142010-04-11T11:48:02.002+10:002010-04-11T11:48:02.002+10:00I think the solution is to build a new park and ri...I think the solution is to build a new park and ride station 1 km down Vineyard Road from Sunbury Station proper and remove all the long term parking from Sunbury central.<br /><br />Also how about we actually extend the Sunbury train out to Goonawarra (satelite suburb of Sunbury) or even push the train line back inwards to the airport (thousands of people who live in Sunbury work at the airport).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18909424.post-12089116188133951282009-07-27T13:28:59.642+10:002009-07-27T13:28:59.642+10:00But Riccardo, electrifying Sunbury isn't just ...But Riccardo, electrifying Sunbury isn't just for the benefit of Sunbury. It's to relieve the Sydenham line by taking the track capacity used by low-capacity V/Line trains carrying 200 people and replacing them with higher-capacity metro trains that can comfortably carry four times that number.<br /><br />Perhaps the Sunbury nay-sayers are just looking for new arguments because their <a href="http://www.danielbowen.com/2009/03/25/extending-to-sunbury/" rel="nofollow">previous ones about travel time and reliability have been demolished</a>.Danielhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16612486802520356809noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18909424.post-65389435342858249362009-07-26T13:22:33.866+10:002009-07-26T13:22:33.866+10:00Excellent post!Excellent post!Jarrett at HumanTransit.orghttp://www.humantransit.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18909424.post-73981370707602369432009-07-25T21:06:41.117+10:002009-07-25T21:06:41.117+10:00I've never heard anything so bizarre as forcin...I've never heard anything so bizarre as forcing a rail upgrade on people who clearly don't want it - while others are crying out for one but don't get it.<br /><br />If the Sunburgers don't mind standing all the way to SXS on their over-full P+H set, then leave'm to it.<br /><br />As for the racism, I have no doubt this is the issue. Whiteflight, pure and simple. And the media has been full of stories of Indian students being bashed on the St Albans line train. Now you and me might read that and hear "skip/leb/islander/afro crime" on the trains - but your Sunburger hears "the trains are full of Indian students [hence bashing victims]" and they can't bear the thought of all these Indian students in their town. Better skip feral thugs than Indians.<br /><br />As for frequency - why bother with 20 minutes? If you're not going to have a proper rail service, then 1 hour will do.<br /><br />Think about it. A energetic gen Z is not going to wait 5 minutes for a train, a commuter who has to wait 20 minutes is probably later for work, and even driving in peak hour is gonna take you an hour, for which 20 minutes is a third of it.<br /><br />I'd either go for 10 minutes (what a commuter might suffer for a service that has to get them to work on time) or an hour (a reasonable intercity service).<br /><br />Anyway that wire is becoming pearls before swine, such as Jesus told us not to throw.Riccardonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18909424.post-41343798991274735432009-07-24T23:17:08.836+10:002009-07-24T23:17:08.836+10:00Going off the specific topic a little, it's mo...Going off the specific topic a little, it's more about the people of Sunbury wanting to preserve their illusion of the place.<br /><br />People there (probably just a very vocal minority) seem to have an elitist view of the place. While they won't say this out loud, they are desperately trying not to be associated with lower socio-economic areas well known for their immigrants like St Albans etc. (Sunbury is racially much more white)<br /><br />I think if you're going to have a large number of park-n-ride passengers, it's not a bad idea to have your sprawling parking lots at an out-of-town station. As to removing the present station as well, it makes no sense at all.<br /><br />Melton is a bit of a disaster in a planning regard but at least the buses are a bit better than Sunbury's, beating the off-peak train frequency!<br /><br />Would make a good experiment to see how well used feeders could be if the Sunbury electrification was combined with a major boost to the local buses, assuming it gets a 20 minute train service the current frequencies are no good.Somebodyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16707243501465478774noreply@blogger.com